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Sega Master System
October 28, 2014
7:46 am
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I haven’t used it very much. I just tested it out with Ninja Gaiden to see if everything worked. One thing about Ninja Gaiden, the music is not as good as the NES ones. And the intro music is really really irritating.

November 11, 2014
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RushDawg said
Thanks Segarule and welcome to the site; always good to have a SEGA (TecToy?) fan around.

Congrats on your Power Base Converter Masa.  How are you enjoying it?

Yes Tec Toy/SEGA. I had Genesis, 32 x, Sega CD and Saturn too.

Thanks for all. 

November 11, 2014
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Masamune said
I haven’t used it very much. I just tested it out with Ninja Gaiden to see if everything worked. One thing about Ninja Gaiden, the music is not as good as the NES ones. And the intro music is really really irritating.

This was worst choice. Ninja Gaiden for SMS is horrible in my point view. Trust me. Take my list and enjoy with the titles. 

November 11, 2014
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What’s the Retro Gaming scene like in Brazil Segarule?

November 13, 2014
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Masamune said
What’s the Retro Gaming scene like in Brazil Segarule?

I don’t understood. What’s the Retrogaming scene you like. This will make i understand better

November 17, 2014
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I mean to say do people in Brazil today like playing Super Nintendo and Genesis?

November 22, 2014
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Yes. Great number via emulation.

April 25, 2015
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Masa, did you try out the Sonic games for the SMS, if so what are your thoughts?

Which leads me to these brief questions, open to all. There’s a few so I’ll number them.

1)We all know that the NES was dominant over the US market but did anyone have a Master System or know a friend who had one when growing up?

2)What was it like having a SMS when mostly everyone else had the rival?

3)Was the SMS even considered competition?

4)Broadly speaking, does it have a good reputation as an 8-bit or is it dismissed, either through ignorance or considered choice?

5)Do any of you wish you had one ‘back in the day’?

6)These days, can you find SMS hardware/software 2nd hand easily & is it expensive or fairly priced?

April 26, 2015
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1) My brother knew a kid who had one… I think, but I’m not sure. There was talk of how it worked, especially being able to play a game with no game in there, but that was as close as I got to playing one. There was basically no reason to have this with the Nintendo out.

3) In my neck of the woods, no. The Master System was never talked about. I got the feeling that it was on the decline as soon as the NES arrived.

4) I’d say looking back, it’s a decent 8 bit system, but it never got a chance to really get pushed to it’s graphical limits. So most of the games look inferior to NES games, from what I’ve seen. I do like the sound chip, but even that is something that was eventually outdone by the NES.

5) No, I’m glad I had the NES. It had the much, MUCH better game library.

6) SMS hardware can be a little hard to find, but when you do find it, it seems to be cheap due to low demand.

May 20, 2015
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Thanks for replying Eric. Just a couple of thoughts.

re 3) I always thought the SMS came out after the NES had arrived. Was this not the case in the US?

re 4) I actually think most SMS games look nicer than NES games (Like SNES vs Gen) but that the NES sound chip is generally better.

re 5) Well yes, the US NES catalogue is quite something I agree. However the US also missed out on several SMS games that definitely should of been released in North America.

re 6) Low demand huh, find me a copy of ALF! wink

May 20, 2015
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Ghost, I didn’t play any of the Sonic SMS games. To answer your other questions:

1) I didn’t know anyone who owned one, although I remember seeing SMS commercials every once in a while. I do recall talking about the Master system once briefly during lunch in elementary school. Someone said they played it but liked the NES better.

2) N/A

3) No, The Master System didn’t stand a chance in those days. Everybody was NES crazy back then.

4) I think now there is some resurgence for the Master system due to the internet. I know more now about the Master System than I ever did.

5) Nope, it was barely a blimp on the radar.

6) I never saw a Master System nor its games in the wild before, but looking on Ebay, the system can be had for less than $100 and many of the games seem reasonably priced to me.

May 22, 2015
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GhostSweeper said
Thanks for replying Eric. Just a couple of thoughts.

re 3) I always thought the SMS came out after the NES had arrived. Was this not the case in the US?

re 4) I actually think most SMS games look nicer than NES games (Like SNES vs Gen) but that the NES sound chip is generally better.

re 5) Well yes, the US NES catalogue is quite something I agree. However the US also missed out on several SMS games that definitely should of been released in North America.

re 6) Low demand huh, find me a copy of ALF! wink

 

Ah, you’re right. The SMS was released after the NES. When I was a kid, I thought it had been out already. That would explain why it never seemed to have any popularity from the start, since the NES caught on fairly quickly.

For a direct comparison, I think Double Dragon on SMS just looks a tad bit muddier than the NES counterpart. That’s where I base my comparison off of. Actually, thinking back to having played Master of Darkness recently, that one is kind muddy too. Matter of opinion, I guess.

Sure, there are some hard-to-find rarities, as with any system, but as a whole I don’t think the system is expensive to collect for.

June 8, 2015
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Blasphemy, Master of Darkness is a paean to 8-bit gaming.

But yeah, I see your point. Like you say, each to their own.

I hear that you can import PAL games and they will run on US consoles without an adapter but surely that would mean things running out of sync.

I think Sonic 1 was the last game released in North America which means you guys never even got the SMS Sonic 2. Once again it’s a completely different stand-alone game from the Genesis one.

June 13, 2015
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These are a couple of my fave music tracks from Master of Darkness. Atmosphere abounds as composers, Fumie Kumatani & Yoko Wada, totally nail the foreboding horror theme of foggy Victorian London. Disquieting yet awesome!

 

“Story”

 

“Epitaph”

January 22, 2018
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Resurrection of this thread.

“Master System, Rise From Your Grave….”

 

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My SMS software. There’s still a few more I would like but I’m happy and content with what I have thus far.

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January 23, 2018
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Cool, the SMS was me and my brothers’ first console growing up so I have some fond memories for it. That’s a pretty good list in the OP, there’s definitely a decent number of games that still hold up well and some hidden gems too, just not on the same scale as on the NES for example. This was partly because of Nintendo’s contracts making third party developers unable to port or make new games for the SMS at the time, and its unpopularity in the US. 

My favs for the console:

Wonder Boy III, Alex Kidd in Miracle World, Zillion, Illusion/Mickey Mouse series, Kenseiden, Bubble Bobble, Sonic the Hedgehog, Power Strike II, R-Type, Fantasy Zone 2, Golvellius, Gangster Town, Ninja Gaiden, Shinobi, Renegade, Asterix, Enduro Racer, Jurassic Park, Phantasy Star, Micro Machines, Ashura (Secret Command/Rambo: First Blood Part 2), Alex Kidd in Shinobi World, Wonder Boy, Star Wars, The Ninja. 

 

“1)We all know that the NES was dominant over the US market but did anyone have a Master System or know a friend who had one when growing up?”

So I grew up and live in Sweden but Nintendo was more popular here as well up until the PS1. There was a larger number of different SMS games released here though. For the most part I didn’t feel like I was missing out on anything, playing SMS at home and NES at friends and relatives’ houses, and I don’t remember arguing over which was better with them that much, we just enjoyed the games we could get a hold of. There was just one of my brothers’ friends who had the SMS though so I guess it would’ve been nice to be able to borrow games from more people.

“2)What was it like having a SMS when mostly everyone else had the rival?”

I was very young but the one thing that made it more clear that Nintendo was more popular was finding the localized Nintendo Power everywhere but rarely the sega mag, Sega Force it was called, and SF also came years later (1992 IIRC). I read a lot of NP and of course wished that some of those games were on SMS too, same thing with SNES and MD, but we also had a GB since near its release date so I played some of its versions or alternatives to the stationary games until we finally got a SNES in 1994 or 1995. 

The two things I can recall that I thought were better with the NES (besides having some nice exclusives) was most of the box art (although it’s not obvious when looking at the pics above), and having a pause button on the controller. On the other hand we rarely had problems booting up a game. 🙂 We also had the 3D glasses and some games for it, which was really cool at the time though I only liked two of the games (Outrun and Space Harrier). 

“3)Was the SMS even considered competition?”

I don’t recall it being mentioned in NP (which makes sense), or in the slightly more objective multiplat mag Super Power which came later. But people I played on our SMS with at the time certainly liked it. I remember some jabs at Sonic (MD) later on in some reviews, but there was definitely more of an open us vs them mentality in the Sega mag, which I always thought was kinda childish, and their reviews etc had more of a pubescent tone I thought, but they also seemed a bit more honest and were sometimes funnier. 

“4)Broadly speaking, does it have a good reputation as an 8-bit or is it dismissed, either through ignorance or considered choice?”

I guess it’s mostly dismissed through ignorance and lack of nostalgia for it. You can still get games pretty cheap for it with a few exceptions like Masters of Combat. 

January 27, 2018
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Thank you for your comments. Its always nice to hear from someone else’s perspective in those halcyon days of 8-bit glory.

I like your taste in games. I still need to get Kenseiden!!

You’re right about the NES start button. Having to use the MS console button just to pause the game was never easy to endure, especially if it was a tense situation on screen.

I never owned the 3D glasses. In your opinion would you say they were effective in gameplay and visual effect?

January 28, 2018
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Kenseiden was also quite influenced by Castlevania, but it’s a bit more unique than Master of Darkness I think, what with its asian setting and open ended structure. The only big flaw is that the optional training levels are super tough compared to the rest of the game. 

The 3D glasses’ effect was very good for certain games like Space Harrier 3D and Zaxxon 3D, and less so for Blade Eagle and most of Maze Hunter, but those games kinda sucked anyway. IIRC they are designed for kids/teens though, so might not fit on an adult. 

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