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The new Smash Brothers will sell but only to the Nintendo audience. This is not a game that is going to make people buy the Wii U. I think the  Carzy Nintendo Fan already has a Wii U by now. Also being available on the much more lucrative 3DS market is really going to take the wind out of SmashU’s sales as well.

I bought Melee (which I liked) and Brawl (which I barely played). I’m going skip this Smash Brothers. To those who buy it and play it forever, wonderful. But to someone like me, this game gets old after a couple of hours. Although, Melee kept my interest more somehow.

Someone need to tell Nintendo that they are watering down the game with all these garbage characters. Who the fuck was demanding Wii Fit Trainer and Animal Crossing Guy?!? DOES ANYONE LIKE FUCKING BOWSER JR?!?!???What a garbage character… Why all these garbage characters instead of focusing on interesting locales and weapons?

I don’t care for the Mii fighters in Smash. Throwing in Miis into Smash is like throwing in the 1960s Batman into a modern Batman game (or into M.A.S.H.). It’s absurd and breaks the cohesion. Smash does have universe cohesion in that it is Nintendo fictional escapism. We really need an option to disable Miis when playing.

And as for amiibos…………..

I already DESPISE these things! What does Amiibo have to do with being inclusive to ages 5-95? Nintendo is really shitting up their franchises by forcing these ‘new business models’. Game companies made the same mistake last generation when they went to HD. Did Nintendo learn from it? No. They just think they are so brilliant, so smart, that only they can do it correctly.

2d Mario – Messed up because they want to introduce DLC.

Starfox – Messed up because it is Episodic Based.

Wii Sports Wii U – Messed up because it is digital and split into buying each sport separately or subscription. Really? Subscription for Wii Sports!!!??????

Smash – Messed up with Amiibos.

Amiibos need to die in fire. Adults are not going to be buying little figurines. This is TOTALLY ANTI-WII mentality going on with it.

Thanks for the welcome back! Still dont have internet (gave it u and its been great!!) but I will be here when I have access!

Welcome back Mong!  As usual, I disagree with a lot of what you had to say.

I think that Smash Wii U will end up becoming a moderate system seller.  There’s been around 8 – 9 million Wii Us sold so far.  It’s fair to assume that a good chunk of those consoles belong to Nintendo diehards, but some must be children, casual fans, etc.  Let’s estimate that 6 million Wii Us belong to hardcore Nintendo fans.  When looking at the sales of past Smash Bros (7 million for Melee, 8 million for brawl) and the hype surrounding Smash Wii U, it’s not too much of a stretch to assume that Smash will end up selling a couple million Wii Us.  Not bad, but not enough to get Nintendo back to where they need to be.

I’ll give you that Miis are kinda lame as characters, but they don’t at all break the universe cohesion.  Miis have always been video game characters, have become iconic to Nintendo and don’t at all seem out of place in a Smash game.  It’s also a big stretch to argue that the Smash universe has “cohesion”.  The first N64 game kinda sorta did, but ever since then they’ve just been adding more and more random crap to things.  It really doesn’t make much sense and it doesn’t have to.  Fighting games don’t really need cohesion to be great (see Marvel vs. Capcom or SoulCalibur’s guest characters for proof of this).

Speaking of Marvel vs. Cacpom, that series has also proved that not all characters in a fighting game need to be strong for it to be a great game.  It also proved that the more characters the better in these “party” style fighters.

As for Amiibos, I think they’re a brilliant idea.  Yes, adults won’t be buying figurines (for themselves anyways), but they’re not for adults; they’re for kids.  Skylanders has already proven there’s a huge market for toys that interact with video games.  Nintendo would be fools to not go after this, considering that their stable of characters is the strongest in the industry, bar none.  If kids want to collect Spyro and some random monsters, you can bet they’ll be interested in collecting Mario and Pikachu.  To Nintendo’s credit, they didn’t make Amiibos central to the game, they’re essentially optional (which may hurt sales).  Still, I expect they’ll sell boat loads.  

On topic: I haven’t tried Smash Wii U myself, since I don’t have a Wii U yet (I just recently got a 2DS, so I’m a little behind on the latest gen).  For what it’s worth though, Smash and Mario Kart 8 are making it VERY tempting for me to pick one up.

Those are some good deals!  How do you find Smash?

Apparently some analysts think Nintendo will make $1 billion off of US Amiibo sales.  Seems pretty suspect to me.

Assuming Nintendo makes $10 off of each Amiibo (an extremely generous assumption), they’d have to sell 100 million Amiibos to make $1 billion.  Considering they haven’t even sold 10 million Wii U’s yet (worldwide), they’re basically assuming that every Wii U owner will buy more than 10 Amiibos.  Time will tell, though I think this is a big reach.

Did you end up picking up any Amiibos Masa?

http://ca.ign.com/articles/201…..r-nintendo

I think the Wii U is a lot more like the Gamecube than the SNES.  Lots of great first party titles to look forward to, but not much third party support and a pretty small library overall.

I was very impressed with the game too.  My bro and I had a lot of fun teaming up online.  I agree that the roster is great.  My favourite part is that Sonic is so good in the game.  My inner SEGA fan gets a strange thrill from beating up Nintendo’s best with the blue blur.

I’m seriously considering getting a Wii U this year.  Of all the next gen consoles, it’s got the most games I’d actually want to play (despite having an anemic library).

On the 3DS front, does anyone here play Smash on that?  I’d love to play against someone from SNES Hub sometime.